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[miker]

So how do we breathe new life into this place?

Personally I post more at OTTfilms, but even that's a bit annoying cos everyone's in London and I'm, well, not in London. OTTfilms is full of UK (but mostly London) based moviemakers who are prepared to work on each other's projects for next to nothing.

I also post on JWsound.net more than this place. JWsound is full of sound guys discussing Cantar and Fusion and stuff.

Those other two sites have a focus on a niche that appeals to me personally.

What's this place's appeal? What's its niche? Until we can define that it's too broad to attract any new blood. The only thing that keeps me checking in here is some sort of tenuous emotional attachment and 10 year membership.

Perhaps we should move over to a Ning site? All three of us.

[Nigel]

I'm open to any and all ideas...

Is it the board or just apathy??

Collective movie making where we all pitch in to create a product across time zones??

Good Luck

[Chance1234]

You would think after all these years we would have some wisdom to share

[assyrix]

Originally posted by Nigel:
Collective movie making where we all pitch in to create a product across time zones??

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We've already done that (search for the "Shooting a Short...With All of You?" thread) and it resulted in four people getting together to do it and took ages. We could repeat it (it was tried) but this time it should be more of a commercial endeavour.

[Nigel]

Well??

What are your ideas??

Good Luck

[miker]

Differentiate or die.

The banner above says "the internet resource for low-budget film-makers"

What does that even mean now? There are other resources such as Wikis and Google, low-budget generally means a shoestring rather than industry low-budget and we're moviemakers. Right?

The whole "make your film for the cost of a second hand car" has been done ad infinitum, ad nauseum. As far as I know, no one on the board except Richard Fisher (Anamnesis) and me (Crooked Features) has managed to direct and finish a feature length movie for the price of a (very expensive) second hand car.

What I have found is that once you have made your movie, nobody cares. And frankly, why should they? The one thing I have learned is that either you remain an "artist" or you market the crap out of your product. Marketing costs money.

What we really need now is the guide to "market your movie for the cost of a single unemployment benefit payment".

I can see it will be another 10 years from making it in 2004 before "Crooked Features" peeks in at the mainstream (I've always said we're 5 years ahead of anything else here in terms of thinking and doing). What a pity there are banners in my movie which will date it badly, doh! (Oh well, that's what VFX artists are for).

Of course all this assumes that the movie is actually any good/marketable in the first place. I'm not sure "Crooked Features" deserves the effort. I know today I could do better. But I'm not in a position to put anything else into production.

Anyway, back to ideas ....

[Chance1234]

Maybe rather than another colaboration of a film,

How about collaborating on the how to ? Get some collective wisdom on how to make a shoe budget film and how not to

[miker]

Originally posted by Chance1234:
Maybe rather than another colaboration of a film,

How about collaborating on the how to ? Get some collective wisdom on how to make a shoe budget film and how not to

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds like work to me! I wanna make movies dammit!

Watching "Crooked Features" will teach you everything you don't need to know anyway!

[Nigel]

Miker

I was DoP on a feature that the total budget was 10k US.

And...

We shot on film. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Lets try this. Show up here from time to time and post something. Anything. A few lines about what you are working on or want to start. Once people start coming back then the ball will just start rolling.

Good Luck

[assyrix]

Originally posted by miker:
As far as I know, no one on the board except Richard Fisher (Anamnesis) and me (Crooked Features) has managed to direct and finish a feature length movie for the price of a (very expensive) second hand car.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I finished "Sounds of Shing Lee", a 60-minutes martial arts feature, for the princey sum of ?500. Highlights include blagging a bar with a whole crowd for free, shooting on major London landmarks and getting a capsule on the London Eye for a box of chocolates. On a bank holiday no less.

However, this sort of film-making is not sustainable. And you're right - nobody gives a hoot about your finished film.